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was honored. >> you know lindsey graham is ready. >> in the coming days and weerks i'm going to continue reaching out. >> he's absolutely determined to get something done. >> the gop has been tagged the party of no. >> now you have speaker boehner saying -- >> the president got his tax hikes. he got his tax hikes. the president got his tax hikes. >> there is still incentive among a lot of republicans to not cooperate with this president. >> all they really need is a hug and a lunch. >> i wish he had done more of that over the years. >> president obama is not their mom. >> where this goes, i don't know. >> there is a caucus of common sense in the coming days and coming weeks. i'm going to keep on reaching out. >> i've been relatively fair to barack obama. >> he doesn't do anything. >> it's jack what you're saying. >> he's not trying to solve the fiscal cliff. now i'm really angry. >>> president obama has just finished a working dinner with 12 republican senators, the start of an outreach campaign that will include visits with the full republican caucuses in both the house and the senate.
to a group of republicans. lindsey graham, rob portman, bob corker, tom coburn and susan collins. >> i expect the president to talk to various members. frankly i wish he had done more of that over the years. we've had all of us very limited interaction with the president. he certainly doesn't have to go through me to call my members. >>> so on the international front, seven days of mourning have begun for the polarizing leader of venezuela. live pictures as people are coming on ultimate en masse. the body being moved from a military hospital where he died taking through the streets and mass crowds. people started filling the roads last night as of news came he lost his two-year battle with cancer. as required by the constitution, an election is set for 30 days from now. the white house issuing this statement, saying at this challenging time, the united states reaffirms its support for the venezuelan people and its interest in develop -- that relationship, as we all know, between chavez and the president, that was a rocky one, straight up to the end. there was no u.s. am intoes do recall there
meet the military requirement for a military tribunal. >> for the lindsey grahams of the world who say gitmo all the time. that's fine. but those who say military commissions, military commissions, sorry, but he can't be charged with material support for terrorism, which can carry a life sentence, because that is disallowed at a legal matter in military commission. but keep in mind the administration backed down from trying kalib shake mohammad in manhattan after police said security would cost $200 million per year. this trial is expect it to take three weeks. >> shepard: thanks very much. juror john mccain is with us now, member of the snarl averaged services committee, the senate committee on homeland security, back home in arizona. senator, thank you. >> thank you. >> how do you feel about this trial in lower manhattan? >> well, of course i'd be very interested in these days of sequestration how much the security costs will be. but importantly in the short term, if this individual got his miranda rights, which i'm confident he did, because any good lawyer is going to tell his or he
, kelly ai yacht, lindsey graham. stoo several republicans in recent days. senator graham on tuesday described his phone call as and i'm quoting, the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of hissed. si. get that man an extra glass of his favorite reislin. a continuing resolution that led to democratic outrage on the floor. >> this is a disgraceful bill. and this process is not on the level. we have a budget that is doubling down on grinding down on the middle class. >> wall street is celebrating while the backs of poor people are been broken. this is not a rule that should pass today. we should remain snowed out. we shouldn't even be here. snow us out until we can get the right kind of balance. >> despite that clear opposition, it did pass keeping in place the sequester cuts while softening the blow for defense naturally. expected to take it up next week saying they'll oppose the measure without a vote to defund the affordable care act. i guess bitterness is always a dish best served cold. while we're on the subject of last year's leftovers, here
republicans, including senators john mccain and lindsey graham are slamming rand's public protest and members of their own party have joined in. >> the country needs more senators who care about liberty. but if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. yeah, i don't even remember the harshest critics of the -- of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> "new york times" photographer caught this image yesterday of what must have been an interesting elevator ride for senators mccain and paul. >>> john brennan who's nomination to lead the cia was temporarily blocked by rand's filibuste
, lindsey graham, intra-party scold got a _#of his own. primary graham. if there was any question about just how tense it might be in the upper chamber, the "new york times" ran this photo showing paul and mccain sharing an elevator ride after the elder senator accused the kentucky sion of disservice. hash tag, awkward. stephanie, we have talked ad nauz yum at this point about the lower chamber and the raucus caucus and how difficult a job speaker john boehner has in his words getting the frogs in the wheelbarrow. but this week i think exposed some serious changes, if not a rift within the elder wing -- the elder sort of establishment wing of the republican party in the upper chamber. not just on sequester but with the rand paul talky filibuster. >> i was pleased see that picture because normally there's a democrat standing there getting a scowl. >> i've been on elevators like that myself. you know, i think that, you know, i appreciate what senator mccain and senator graham were trying to say. under no circumstances are americans at home in danger of getting shot by a drone from the u.s. go
near the white house. linds lindsey graham and kelly ayotte took the president up on his offer. other republicans gave the thumbs up and said, they had a good exchange of ideas. no word on the tab. but the white house said that the white house picked up the check. >>> we talked about having to establish a process to move forward and i got the sense that president obama's planning on probably doing something with a similar gathering with some dem senators. he seemed very sincere to get engaged in the process. trasie potts has more. >> reporter: part of that process that he was talking about is really setting a different atmosphere and a different tone for compromise. first of all, to let these republicans know that the president is willing to compromise and number two, to talk about some of these key issues not just the budget and of course the budget and the cuts from sequestration are a big part of where these differences lie. things like immigration and gun control and to sort of bring down the temperature between the two sides. now on the same day that was happening on capitol hill
. >> when you talk about the practical side, krystal, let me show you, james, senator lindsey graham. what he said today about president obama and how the president is still reaching out and we know all of the things graham has said. listen to this. >> he just called me. >> he did? >> yeah. i'm very encouraged about what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. maybe because of sequestration and frustration with the public, the time is right to act. he wants to do the big deal. >> so the president wants to do the big deal. he's doing the right thing according to lindsey graham. i mean, does this mean that there's a possibility that the president can work out a big bargain here or something? some kind of adjustment of compromise, james? >> well, listen. the president is always -- and he's shown himself to be willing and able to compromise. in fact, those of us on the left have been disturbed by some of the compromises that he has made. so he's always moving towards consensus. i think he's always demonstrated he's will
. lindsey graham offered some background yesterday afternoon. >> the president called senator mccain and myself a couple of weeks ago, and senator mccain was his opponent, as you all thou know, in 2008. i see the president reaching out. the dinner that was supposed to be quiet is sad that it makes news. >> he's right about that. graham's closest friends were on the list. graham also included republican senators who have a particular interest in the budget debate, so that included pat toomey. graham is the only senator up for re-election in 2014. miguel rodriguez was there. vice president biden, not at the dinner. maybe this is the start of a new outreach. in his first term, mr. obama's outreach to republicans was sporadic at best and though the president bristles when that's pointed out -- >> i promise you, we invite folks from congress over here all the time. and when they choose to come, i enjoy their company. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i think they don't consider the optics useful for them politically. >> the fact of the matter i
. look at this point lindsey graham made about the republicans who joined with senator paul in that filibuster yesterday. let's listen to graham. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know. i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side, they had a drone program back then. so what is it all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> you know, this is the fascinating thing about the right wing and people watching this show are students of it, maybe in danger of it. you have the neocon people like lindsey graham and john mccain who are ready at the snap of the fingers to go to war. that's the first solution. let's go to war. they always have one ready. then you have the very conservative, old pat buchanan breed, of people like rand paul who are very suspicious of our power being used for any purpose besides b
lindsey graham, they accused you of theaterics or political stunt i think senator mccain used. is this a fair debate and how do you respond to that? >> i think it's a good debate. i think they're on the wrong side of history. >> greta: do you mind they called it a stunt? >> i don't admire that kind of add homonym, but they've been arguing you can indefinitely detain a u.s. citizen, i asked senator mccain directly can you send a u.s. citizen to guantanamo bay without a trial forever? and his answer was yes, if i deem them to be a safety risk. problem is that's an accusation, if a government or a politician calls you an enemy combatant, is that enough to whisk you off to guantanamo bay or is that enough to have a drone strike on you? and see, both of these senators argue that america is part of the battlefield for the laws of war apply. well, the laws of war sometimes don't involve due process and i acknowledge that. if soldiers -- if the enemy is shooting at our soldiers, there is no due process involved with that, we shoot back to kill. there are no judges and juries, but amer
the charges against abughayt. >> for the lindsey grahams of the world who say gitmo, gitmo gitmo all the time fine, that's a policy choice. for the same people who say military commissions, military commissions, military commissions sorry he can't be charged for support for terrorism which can carry a life sentence because that's disallowed as a legal matter in military commissions. >> this trial now set for april 8th. it should last only a few weeks. shep? >> shepard: doug mckelway in d.c. tonight. thanks. senator john mccain is defending the droning of terrorist suspects overseas saying sometimes it's just not possible to capture them. he is blasting senator rand paul for suggesting the u.s. might use drones on americans in america. the kentucky republican held a 13 hour filibuster the other day calling for the white house to rule out drone strikes in the united states against u.s. citizens not engaged engaged in combat. the next day the white house did just that there is a split in the republican party over. this make no mistake. ' today on "studio b" senator john mccain said it was ludicr
blasted for the filibuster by john mccain and sin lindsey graham for using scare tactics. >> so somehow allege or infer that the president of the united states is going to kill somebody like jane fonda or someone who disagrees with the policies is a stretch of imagination which is frankly ridiculous. ridiculous. >> the first ads for the first in the nation 2016 iowa presidential kau kigss are on the air. the patriot superpac is running the spots against virginia's republican governor bob mcdonnell for raising taxes. >>> a new book about hillary clinton calmed "the secretary" says the secret to her globe trotting stamina is hot peppers. >>> fashion designer vivian westwood is criticizing the first lady for what she wears. she calls michelle obama a nice looking woman but claims her clothes don't suit her. she calls the first lady's clothes, quote, dreadful. how can that be? >>> the white house says despite the extreme -- eggstreme budget cuts from the sequester the kids will not be disappointed. the annual easter egg roll will be held. the people's house will hold the annual extravaganza
that. now, you see today that republicans like lindsey graham and john mccain are making rand paul pay the price for what happened. >> megyn: they are not happy at all. they think his behavior was offensive and insulting and raising an issue they don't think is a real one and demeans the presidency by suggesting that he would at random kill americans sitting in a cafe. >> and i might submit that that's the reason rand paul was where he was last night and why senator graham was where he was last night dining with the president. you don't get access, don't get influence, don't get to be part of the discussion behind closed doors in washington d.c. making a stink, being the skunk at the garden party, like rand paul did. however, rand paul can count this on his side. the american people didn't like washington and didn't like cut out of the process that this new brand of populous libertarian style of populace in the republican party may have currency and may make him a contending for 2016. >> megyn: you look out the window behind you and literally we're expecting to see the pigs fly. what h
confirmed the dinner will be at a d.c. area hotel and will include john mccain, lindsey graham and others. the president will go have lunch with mitch mcconnell. >> i expect the president to talk to various members. i wish he had done more than that over the years. all of us very limited interaction with the president and he is certainly doesn't have to go through me to recall my members. >> democratic congresswoman maxine waters from california, the top-ranking democrat. thank you for your time. i top the get your reaction to rand paul and the filibuster we are watching play out there. >> obstructionists. i know that this kind of trying to stop the president from having the people that he would like to carry out the various jobs and these agencies is absolutely li dickulous. this director is very much needed. for him to commit himself to filibustering for as long as it takes is a kind of destructive action that needs to stop in the congress of the united states of america. >> moving forward to the president having dinner tonight, weather permitting as we understand, what do you make of t
. including lindsey graham. >> i am encouraged by the president's outreach. i hope it bears fruit. >> white house spokesman jay carney says the president wants to talk about a grand bar gone budget deal. but also coming together on issues like immigration reform. >> the president is interested in, you know, finding the members of the caucus of common sense. >> the president is dining to close to a dozen rank and file republicans, a list that does not include boehner or senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. >> i wish he had done more over the years. we have had all of us limited interaction with the president. he doesn't have to go through me to call my members and i'm sure he will. >> the president has asked to meet separately next week with the caucuses of the house democrats, senate democrats, house republicans and senate republicans. the first time he has met with the republicans on the hill since 2010. >> bret: thank you. what has been characterized as major snowstorm is moving up the coast. it's not that bad in washington. more rain than snow. but in virginia, there is a state of
's stance weird and crazy. but what's surprising is that two g.o.p. senators lindsey graham and john mccain launched their own drone strike against paul. >> we have done, i think, a disservice to a lot of americans by making them believe that somehow they are in danger from their government. they are not. i don't think what happened yesterday is helpful to the american people. what we saw yesterday is going to give ammunition to those critics who say that the rules of the senate are being abused. i hope that my colleagues on this side of the aisle will take that into consideration. >> to take this debate into the absurd is what i object to. >> laura: now, don't get me wrong. they have the right to disagree with paul and the majority of g.o.p. senators who stood with him. but, given that the filibuster lasted 13 hours, why didn't either of them have the moxxy to debate their colleague face to face on the senate floor? what were they afraid of? presumably they could have done so either before or after their dinner with the president. were they jealous that a junior senator dominated the headl
cain and lindsey graham on the floor. two ways to interpret it. one, you can interpret it as their reasserting control over what people think about the issues. and the other is, they're actually kind of threatened. we're going to take a break and we'll come back. graham and paul on the floor. [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. exciting and would always come max and pto my rescue. bookstore but as time passed, i started to notice max just wasn't himself. and i knew he'd feel better if he lost a little weight. so i switched to purina cat chow healthy weight formula. i just fed the recommended amount... and they both loved the taste. after a few months max's "special powers" returned... and i got my hero back. purina cat chow healthy weight. a talking car. but i'll tell you
cain lindsey graham faction. you're going to see more of that happen as you move toward 2016. >> look at your latest perry on politics, the title of your article, why obama's new charm offensive could work. thursday lunch, tell me do you think this is going to work? >> this could work. and here's why. on the budget deficit, there's a group of republicans, bob corker of tennessee, lindsey graham of south carolina who want to reap some big bipartisan reduction deal that has tax increases and also spending cuts in it. and the president is trying to engage that group. try to work around. he knows mitchell mcconnell probably doesn't want to help him because of the primary. but the goal of the president is to work with republicans, about 12 republicans. if they can get something drawn together, they can reach a deal, he's hoping house republicans will allow it to come to the floor and be voted on. i think that could be a good, smart strategy. the president has tried a lot. he's watched super bowl with the republicans, had them over to his house, watched movies with them, played basketball with them
because right now there's no discretion. mitch mcconnell's filibuster -- and john mccain and lindsey graham were screaming for these because they were saying this is a national security emergency. at least give the executive more discretion. mitch mcconnell himself stopped both those bills along with the democratic bill. harry reid said i'll give you two republican bills if you'll just let us vote on this one democratic replace bill. i think that the republican party has allowed the rand paul wing to trump the national security wing. absolutely. >> there's another piece to that, though. the continuing resolution is something that sounds like everybody has agreed not to fight over. in large part, i think from the right because it's going to give the pentagon more leeway to decide where these cuts happen, and so everybody can agree, okay, republicans get what they want. the president doesn't want to renegotiate or relitigate another budget fight three weeks after this one. i just doubt, you know -- i doubt that we're going to actually see any movement on this at all before 2014. i mean
years. you saw him have john mccain and lindsey graham in for a private conversation this week. to me that was a very good sign. it's very important that they keep talking to each other and maybe on some issues like immigration they can make some progress. >> and, eugene, politically speaking the white house already starting to lay plans for what's going to happen in 2014. they need 17 seats to take control. that's a tall order. it would have to be clinton-like in terms of its achievement. >> it's a very tall order, particularly after redistricting has made a lot of safe districts for the republican majority. it's very difficult to draw a map and look at it and see how they pick up those 17 seats. then again, we're getting used to some pretty big swings in the house. >> no doubt. >> and not all anticipated. >> thank you. >> it happens. >> thank you. >> thank you, gene robinson. thank you, jonathan alter. >>> up next, it's happened yet again, the right wing falls for another story without checking into whether it's true. this is "hardball," the place for politics. but we can still help
lindsey graham came up with the invite list, and the invite list is not a bunch of moderates. >> there are no moderate republicans. >> conservative republicans. some of his biggest critics and what the president's going to get from them is, okay, if you want a grand bargain, here's what you need to do for us and that's what lindsay graham and john mccain want to do. >> it looks like it's not a late dinner because a bunch of them left. >> early birds. >> appreciate it. >>> just ahead, breaking news. african lion hand raised at a sanctuary devoted to saving exotic cats, an animal on the "ellen" show a while back, killed a 26-year-old woman. we'll get the take on the attack. >>> and a cnn exclusive. the family of reevas steenkamp is speaking out for the first time since oscar pistorius was freed on bail. what they told drew griffin in south africa may change the way you see her killing. we work. we plan. ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others. to help you retire your way, with confidence. ♪ that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what the
security. senator john mccain and lindsey graham both lablasted him for his filibuster, suggested it was not serious here is the sample of mccain's criticism and you will hear paul's response. >> somehow to allege that the united states of america our government would drop a drone hell fire missile on jane fonda, that is that brings the scrfertion a serious conversation u.s. policy to the realm of ridiculous. >> this was a very serious question. it was a question that took me a month and a half to get an answer to. >> meanwhile the top republican and democrat democratic leaders in the united states senate praised senator paul for his strong convictions and his stamina. shep? >> shepard: mike emanuel on capitol hill. thanks. remember, the north koreans saying we don't want to do war? that's over. north korea is now officially threatening to nuke washington, d.c. and in response, the united states is fully capable of defending itself against any north korean missile attack. that promise from both the state department and the white house just hours after this threat from the north ko
't an issue, and john mccain and lindsey graham were among those that took him to task on the floor. really sort of teaching the new kid some lessons, some would say. >> that's what you do. you try to say, you know, i wish -- they always say how do you break up a filibuster? i said bring a cot. nobody would help him, and you do irritate your colleagues when you do that. you keep them up late at night, you know, and then you need some colleagues to come, and they won't come. anyway, there are fewer of those people percentage-wise in the senate than there are in the house where you have 80 people that didn't come there to limit government. they came there to stop it, and that's what they have to deal with over there, and i think he has them corralled in pretty well now. he is saying, you know, no spending cuts, but you can't tax your way out of this baby. you can't cut spending your way out of this baby. you can't grow your way out. you have to have a blend, and i think that's what they're working on, and i see that. >> what do you think of at least rand paul was an old-fashioned real fist fi
party, hawkish like mccain and lindsey graham, are putting down rand paul because he isn't one of them and he dared to question the use of u.s. military power in this case against individual citizens. where are you, a man of the left, on this one? >> well, on the subject of drones, and this is a very interesting thing to watch this divide among the republicans whereas you say the establishment, which is reflexively pro-military on the republican side, is running up against the new tea party republicans who aren't so reflexively pro-military who are ideologically libertarian and see threats to civil liberties where some progressive lefties might also. i, too, am troubled like rand paul -- like a stopped clock occasionally he's right, and on the use of drones -- >> i used that phrase yesterday. did you watch last night because i said a broken clock is right twice a day. >> i didn't see that. great minds think alike. >> it's yours, too. let me go to cynthia -- if you want to finish that thought, go ahead. rand paul can be pretty wacky. he's talking about the united states government hitti
, someone who has been demanding answers since day one, senator lindsey graham, senator, welcome back, sir. >> thank you and god bless fox news. >>. >> sean: well, thank you for saying that. i met ty woods father. >> yeah. >> sean: i've got it tell you something, his son gave his life saving other people and we deserve answers. this has gone on too long. when we be able to talk to the survivors, some of the gaps we have can be filled by them, they were there. >> we're going to write a letter, senator ayotte and myself to senator kerry asking him to make survivors available to the congress, the appropriate committees can interview the survivors about what happened that night. six months later, what do we know, sean? we know that the story told by susan rice on 16th of september that the consulate was significantly, substantially and strongly secured has collapsed and we know her story and the president's story, an al-qaeda attack caused by a hateful video that led to a spontaneous riot has collapsed. we know that the story they told us for weeks after the attack no longer holds water. >> se
ayote, mitch mcconnell, lindsey graham, john mccain. they all came out and said it was an outrage, they say the right decision of course would be to ship the guy to guantanamo. they say that it so much better. they say now he is in federal custody, of course he will not talk. he will clam up. the obama administration blew it. i should also mention now that along with charging the federal suspect in court today, the prosecutors also submitted as evidence 22 pages of statements that osama bin laden's son-in-law has made to federal law enforcement officials since he was arrested. but still, everybody freak out. double guantanamo. maybe that will help you get re-elected if you ever have to go back in a time machine to run for office again in 2004. with the spark miles card from capital one, bjorn earns unlimited rewards for his small business. take these bags to room 12 please. [ garth ] bjorn's small business earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? ahh, oh! [ garth ] great businesses dese
heard from another republican, senator lindsey graham, who thinks another paul is on the wrong track. >> the program he used overseas has made us safer. this idea we would use a drone to target american in a cafe in america is ridiculous. i think the american people need to understand the threat we face. >> reporter: if senator paul wanted to break senator strom thurmond's record for the longest filibuster ever, he would have needed to speak until five past noon today. he says he doesn't think filibustering will be a regular occurrence for him. bill: we shall see, right? really attracted a lot of attention this way. peter, thank leading our coverage on that. martha has more now. martha: indeed he did. he went on for almost 13 hours. here is the end of it. >> i thank you very much for the forbearance and i yield the floor. >> mr. president? >> senator from illinois. [applause] there will be order. there will be order. martha: applause at the end there. senator paul's filibuster now in the history books. how does it stack up? the most recent one was a little over two years ago. vermont
senator lindsey graham who drew up the guest list suggested afterward there might be room for compromise. >> we've got to do something structurally to save medicare and social security, and republicans agree the tax code is a mess and we can flatten out the tax code, we can raise some revenue to buy down rates and to pay some debt down. >> reporter: the president will have a tougher job convincing republicans in the house where they want to use any savings from reforming the tax code to lower tax rates overall. his charm offensive continues next week when on wednesday and thursday the president goes up to capitol hill to talk to republicans on their own turf for the first time since 2010. jenna: is he going to bring snacks too? if all it tuckus meals. >> reporter: i think he expects them to feed him this time. jenna: it might be appropriate after a couple of free dinners and lunches. we'll continue to watch for the lunch, it will begin around 12:30 eastern time. thank you. jon: fox news alert and some ominous news out of north korea, that country is now threatening a preemptive nuclear s
lindsey graham olympia snowe and thad cochran as well as members of congress and active people elaine jones, we have a good group of lawyers and non-lawyers. >> i'm dieing. who won? >> this year -- we're going to announce it? >> yeah. >> we had our big discussion this week and it's gabrielle giffords. >> what a choice. >> why her? >> i think one of the things that obviously everybody knows of her tremendous incredible courage. the fact she went through this obviously horrendous tragedy and has recommitted herself to the political process i think is something that is really inspiring. obviously for anybody in public life who is willing to do that because it is tough these days. i think for people just in their own lives to see that kind of courage in somebody who is just willing to persevere and keep fighting no matter what happens. >> the people who have been nominated, do they know they irp in the running or do you call them and they pick up the phone and it's you on the other end of the line. >> i had such a wonderful conversation with her. it was really heart
are objecting are the two cranky old guys in the senate, lindsey graham and john mccain. [ laughter ] >> steve: all right. geraldo. >> clayton: we want our viewers to weigh in on that topic. plus this, much was made this week of senator rand paul, his big filibuster. he actually gave a speech. he want reading from a magazine or a phone book or anything. he gave a speech. he was citing all sorts of libertarian bloggers as it relates to these drone strikes in the united states' use of these drone strikes around the world and here at home. he wanted clarification on something very specific, which is does the american government have the right to launch a drone here in manhattan, new mexico, wherever, and target an american citizen who is a non-combatant and the white house responded. the attorney general eric holder said no. so the white house actually gave some movement on that. what did you make of this back and forth? >> well, first of all, i think that what senator rand paul did with that 13-hour filibuster was absolutely magnificent. i was so proud of him. he was channeling jimmy stewart fro
mccain, lindsey graham pushing back against rand paul and ted cruz, and the new guard. women tend to negotiate those things a little bit more diplomatically, not less forcefully but more diplomatically. jenna: you say the women have the ability, specifically the conservative women you mention to reflect and express the message of the g.o.p. better over the next couple of years, or maybe to the advantage of the g.o.p. over the next couple of years. still let's go back to the message. do you think the g.o.p. message, the conservative message in this country is u know, put in the right form? is it actually out there in the right way to be kpwupbd, whoever is the one to communicate it? >> not right now. this is something that really needs a lot of work and maybe women can lead the charge on this. conservatives tend to argue in facts and facts tending to cold. when we talk about the deficit or debtor tax rates all of what we're saying as a conservative, i believe is accurate, but it tends not to resonate because it's not cast in more emotional terms. of i think what conservatives need
lindsey graham, for instance, is saying we can still get a grand bargain. he wants the president and the speaker to go back to where they were back in 2011 and pick that up and deal with entitlements and perhaps more revenues because of closing loopholes. should your party come to the table on the issue of increased revenues? >> you know, i think it's a little hard to imagine after january where the highest -- the biggest tax increase in american history took place and then go back to say we have a revenue problem. i think the focus -- >> no wiggle room there at all? >> there may be. if the president's sincere about dealing with our structural problems. but the thing that we could all agree on is how do we create high sustained economic growth for starters, and how can we get back to a degree of normalcy where, like, budgets are passed? i'm not talking about ten-year estimations, but going to the new normal being the house and the senate pass a budget and there's a compromise and the president signs it into law. >> this all gets to the dynamic in washington right now. you are pas
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